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01/26/2020 Sunday Indian & Red Hills Loop; 12 wonderful cross-country miles, as good as it gets; 2000/2000 from S2 just South of Badland's Overlook.

01/08/2017 In-Ko-Pah to the Valley of the Moon; 13 difficult miles from Mountain Spring exit off the 8 up Pinto Canyon to the Valley of the Moon at the border and out the next exit West on the 8. This is completely otherworldly 10 to 12 hours of cross country hiking and huge rock scrambling with some under boulder crawl-thrus.
See Ryan's way cool VIDEO of this hike HERE!

01/15/2017 Rabbit Peak - from the East; just for Lino, he made me do it! ...18 extreme miles. Welcome to the 6th biennial "Rabbit Full Throttle Suffer-Fest;" all cross country & use trail with relentless elevation gain (6700'). Blinding sleet or piercing heat may be experienced... this mountain takes no hostages. Carpool meets at 3:00 am; we may emerge from pitch blackness, lost in lemon groves, approaching midnight! Good thing MLK Day is Monday.
The first 6 pictures scrolling above are from various Rabbit adventures.

01/22/2017 Tecate Peak; 11 moderate miles on jeep roads. Commanding views of the border region in this great workout of a hike 1900/1900.

01/29/2017 Whale Mountain - West approach loop; 15 moderate cross country, use & jeep trail miles in 10 hours 3400/3400. This hike has many options for a wide range of hikers. Whale location & weather

02/05/2017 Indian & Red Hills Loop; 12 wonderful cross-country miles, as good as it gets; 2000/2000 from S2 just South of Badland's Overlook.

02/12/2017 Canceled by wind Villager - the classic desert up and back ramp; 5200/5200 in 13 miles, a moderate but long use trail from the start of the Santa Rosa Ridge.

02/12/2017 Otay Mountain - West Approach; 14 moderate miles 3100/3100 - Best view and workout hike in the county!; Meet at: E Street Trolley Station 750 E St, Chula Vista, CA 91910 Take 15 freeway all the way south (it mergers with and becomes the 5) Exit on E Street, turn Left back across the freeway then almost immediately turn right into the Trolley Station Parking Lot.

02/19-20/2017 Canyon Sin Nombre - President's Day desert backpack; leave 7:00 am Sunday & get back early Monday; easy backpack & actual BLM campfire with a really fun cross country adventure.

02/26/2017 Pinto Canyon and In-Ko-Pah Gorge; challenging 10 mile 2500 up and downish all cross country exploration of the most unknown places we can find in this wonderful world of "lost souls and campaneros sin esperar" where our only friend is La Migra.

03/05/2017 Red Top; 18 difficult cross country, use & jeep trail miles to the most remote peak in the Anza-Borrego.

b>03/06/2017 Caliente-Wilderness; 12 moderate trail miles in the loveliest world.
03/12/2017 Goat Canyon trestle from Mortero Palms variation; route depends on the transportation we'll have; very difficult cross country all-dayer. Hopefully we'll actually get to the world's largest curved wooden railroad trestle this time; a "road" always just way too far; and, remember those 80 mph winds last time. We'll need a rope for a dry waterfall on this one Francisco and a vehicle with some clearance Mark.

03/19/2017
Grapevine Mountain/Bitter Creek; 11 moderately difficult cross country mile 2600/2600 desert peak bag near Scissors Crossing just across from Granite.
Alternate: (3) 2 hour Flower Hikes in various Anza Borrego locations with cool car rides and very cool lunch at a Borrego Springs eatery in-between.

03/26/2017 Walking on the Moon - Carrizo Badland's mud caves and sinkholes; a moderate exploratory hike to forbidden places from near Fish Creek Mountain, 14 cross country & jeep road miles 2000/2000. We'll sneak along the edge of the closed Carrizo WWII bomber impact zone and see gigantic sinkholes, large enough to swallow entire North Park neighborhoods, at the foot of the massive Elephant Knees just beyond the Elephant trees.
Alternate: 10 degrees cooler and 2000' higher, Caliente Wilderness; 12 miles 1700/1700 near Warner Springs, (see Schad).
03/26/2017 Caliente Wilderness; 12 miles 1700/1700 near Warner Springs, (see Schad). (A forecast high of 65 here beats the cancelled Desert hike in the 80's)

04/02/2017 Badland's exploration from June Wash; difficult hike in spectacular formations; 15 to 18 cross country & use trail miles. A place to lose your mind... This is the Twilight Zone! ...the hike I look forward to most!
04/02/2017 Nobel Canyon - Both Ways; moderately difficult hike (you can do part of it or the whole thing); 10 miles each way, 3050/3050 trail miles from Pine Valley to the Sunrise Hwy, then back. Desert forecast is 84, it's 65 for Nobel Cyn.

04/09/2017 Dawn's Peak "6582" - The Lonely Monster; 14 entirely cross country miles, 6000/6000. Final to the top is 3000' in 1.2 clicks, doan get no more harder den dis! We need something a bit better than my Prius to get up Clark Valley (to) Rockhouse Cyn Rd; a good road but requires some clearance in spots. Unlike "Shad's route," I loop across the most beautiful & remote upper mesa West of the Santa Rosa Ridge & exit out a lovely drainage to Rockhouse Cyn. Lightweights like me can skip the final 3000' "ramp;" there's a great spot for a nap.
04/09/2017 Eagle Crag on Palomar Mountain; 17 trail miles, 3800/3800. A long, difficult, beautiful hike atop the Mountain.

04/16/2017 Easter Exploration of Myer Valley/Boulder Creek in In-Ko-Pah; 10 cross country miles, 2000/2000; bagging a couple new peaklets, canyons, morteros and palm groves in boulder wonderland.

04/23/2017 Pinon Ridge - just East of Ranchita; easy 14 miles 1400/1400 on trails and old roads with a little cross country to get to the top of Wilson Peak 4573; see the "unknown" sides of Whale, Pinto Mountain & Borrego Springs.

04/30/2017 Agua Tibia Loop via Dripping Springs; either 20 long, often difficult boring miles - 4500’/4500’ for fast hikers or the 12-14 mile Dripping Springs hike only.

05/07/2017 Otay Mountain - West Approach for Mother; 14 moderate miles - 3100/3100 - on jeep roads; best workout "in town" and a view to die for of where “The Donald” is not going to get the funds “to build the wall for” because of his complete ineptitude, stupidity and general imbecility.

05/14/2017 Lovely Lagunas on Thing Valley Rd; 6 easy jeep road miles down then 6 back up the "backside" of the Laguna's loveliest pine & oak forest yet untouched by fire; with an optional 4 mile tough slog extension for diehards at the “bottom.”

05/21/2017 Indian Creek Loop; 8 moderate miles – 1000’/1000’ - 5 lovely hours in the Lagunas; completely and absolutely pleasant.

05/28-29/2017 Memorial Day San Jacinto Backpack; take the Tram then Back Pack to the most beautiful “Little Long Valley;” a very difficult climb with a BP but worth every pain.

06/03-04/2017 The In-Ko-Pah Music Festival; an overnight non-profit Music Festival Campout in the desert to "Rock your Cookies" with 13 bands. Sign-up for Car Camp with me, then get a "Camper" ticket below:
In-Ko-Pah Music Festival Site  Get a "Camper" ticket for $59.99 here.
In-Ko-Pah Music FaceBook  This is so totally NOT LA.
“Man From Anamnesis” The Mattson 2  Nice Young Men Bringing Surf Music to Jazz.

06/18/2017 Sunday Baldy 10064' - via the Ski Hut; 9 steep difficult starkly beautiful miles - 3900'/2400' - in 7 hours, then take the ski lift part way down - thank God - to a wonderful dinner at Carrow’s.

06/24/2017 Saturday Baden Powell 9393'; 12 moderately difficult trail miles 4000/4000 from near Wrightwood in the San Gabriel’s.

07/02/2017 Sunday San Gorgonio via Momyer - for Father; 23 difficult trail miles 4800/4800.

07/23/2017 Sunday The Three T's-Cucamonga Wilderness - above Pomona; 14 moderately difficult trail miles at altitude 5100/2700; Timber Mtn, Telegraph Pk and Thunder Mtn via Icehouse Cyn, in the prettiest, mostly shaded wilderness in about 10 hours.

07/30/2017 Sunday San Gorgonio via Vivian Creek; 19.6 difficult trail miles 4500/4500 to So Cal's highest peak.

08/06/2017 Sunday Baldy from Wrightwood; strenuous and little used "Backbone Trail," 8 miles each way 4400-1100/1100-4400.

08/20/2017 Sunday San Jacinto via Deer Springs Loop; 17 strenuous miles 5200'/5200' in about 10 hrs.

08/27/2017 Sunday Baldy from Baldy Village; only 14 miles, the shortest drive to one of the most difficultly exquisite climbs in So Cal. Be prepared to enjoy suffering all day... dinner afterwards is wonderful!

08/26/2017 Saturday Baldy 10064' - via the Ski Hut; 9 steep difficult starkly beautiful miles - 3900'/2400' - in 7 hours, then take the ski lift part way down - thank God - to a wonderful dinner at Carrow’s.

09/02-04/2017 Saturday-Monday Labor Day 2 Nite San Jacinto Backpack; take the Tram and Backpack only 2.5 miles to lovely Tamarack Valley the first night; then over the mountain to the very most beautiful “Little Long Valley” the second; meet not too early Saturday, until back mid-late afternoon Monday.

09/02-04/2017 Saturday-Monday Labor Day 2 Nite San Jacinto Backpack; take the Tram and Backpack only 2.5 miles to lovely Tamarack Valley the first night; then over the mountain to the very most beautiful “Little Long Valley” the second; meet not too early Saturday, until back mid-late afternoon Monday.

09/16/2017 Sunday Oakzanita Peak & Granite Springs; 11 moderate miles 2300/2300 in the best part of the Cyuamacas.

09/16/2017 Saturday Baldy 10064' - via the Ski Hut; 9 steep difficult starkly beautiful miles - 3900'/2400' - in 7 hours, then take the ski lift part way down - thank God - to a wonderful dinner at Carrow’s.

09/24/2017 Sunday Black's Beach; My Favorite moderate hike, La Jolla Shores to Torrey Pines loop 'n back, 12 miles in 5 hrs.

09/30/2017 Saturday San Jacinto via Deer Springs Loop; 17 strenuous miles 5200'/5200' in about 10 hrs.

10/15/2017 Sunday Tecate Peak; 11 moderate miles on jeep roads. Commanding views of the border region in this great workout of a hike 1900/1900.

10/21/2017 Saturday Baldy from Wrightwood; strenuous and little used "Backbone Trail," 8 miles each way 4400-1100/1100-4400.

11/05/2017 Sunday Pinon Ridge - just East of Ranchita; easy 14 miles 1400/1400 on trails and old roads with a little cross country to get to the top of Wilson Peak 4573; see the "unknown" sides of Whale, Pinto Mountain & Borrego Springs.

11/11/2017 Saturday Baldy from Baldy Village; only 14 miles, the shortest drive to one of the most difficultly exquisite climbs in So Cal. Be prepared to enjoy suffering all day... dinner afterwards is wonderful!

11/23-26/2017 Thursday-Monday Grand Canyon Thanksgiving Tanner/Beamer/Escalante Routes/Trails; GC backpackers favorite trip, the most beautiful Tanner, 4500' down in 9.6 miles; a 12 to 18 mile 1000'/1000' "relatively flat" day trip to the Little Colorado River junction on the Beamer; a 10 to 15 mile 1500'/1500' to the New Hance on the primitive Escalante or stay in camp. Stay 3 nights near Tanner Rapids or move if we like, camp anywhere! Coming out, there is a spring half way and the gentlest rise to the top.

12/10/2017 Sunday Oakzanita Peak & Granite Springs; 11 moderate miles 2300/2300 in the best part of the Cyuamacas.

12/16/2017 Saturday Agua Tibia Loop via Dripping Springs; either 20 long, often difficult boring miles - 4500’/4500’ for fast hikers or the 12-14 mile Dripping Springs hike only for slow.

01/01/2018 Monday Blue Angel Peak & Valley of the Moon; 2000' up & down, 12 miles. Trail/Jeep road and cross country in a magical place.

12/10/2017 Sunday Oakzanita Peak & Granite Springs; 2300'/2300' 11 moderate miles in the best part of the Cyuamacas.

12/23/2017 Saturday Dripping Springs; 4100’/4100’ 12 moderate trail miles on the backside of Palomar Mtn.

01/01/2018 Monday Blue Angel Peak & Valley of the Moon; 900'/900' 7 moderate trail/jeep road miles in a magical place.

01/14/2018 Sunday Indian & Red Hills Loop; 12 wonderful cross-country miles, as good as it gets - 2000'/2000'... from S2, just south of Badland's Overlook.

01/20/2018 Saturday Red Top; 18 difficult cross country, use & jeep trail miles to the most remote peak in the Anza-Borrego.

02/04/2018 Sunday Otay Mountain - West Approach; 14 moderate miles 3100'/3100' - best view and workout hike in the county!

02/10/2018 Saturday Whale Mountain - West approach loop; 15 moderate cross country, use & jeep trail miles in 10 hours 3400'/3400'. This hike has many options for a wide range of hikers.

02/25/2018 Sunday Tecate Peak; 11 moderate miles on jeep roads. Commanding views of the border region in this great workout of a hike 1900'/1900'.

02/04/2018 Sunday Otay Mountain - West Approach; 14 moderate miles 3100'/3100' - best view and workout hike in the county!

02/10/2018 Saturday Whale Mountain - West approach loop; 15 moderate cross country, use & jeep trail miles in 10 hours 3400'/3400'. This hike has many options for a wide range of hikers.

02/25/2018 Sunday Tecate Peak; 11 moderate miles on jeep roads. Commanding views of the border region in this great workout of a hike 1900'/1900'. I have a border crossing card, if you have one or a passport we can dine in Mejico despues!

03/03/2018 Saturday Pinto Canyon Petroglyphs via Myer Valley; challenging 10 mile 2500 up and downish cross country & jeep road exploration of the most unknown places we can find in this wonderful world on the way to the petroglyphs.

03/11/2018 Sunday Wind Caves & Elephant Knees; a moderate exploratory hike to forbidden places from near Fish Creek Mountain, 12 cross country & jeep road miles 2000/2000 to the massive Elephant Knees just beyond the Elephant trees.

03/24/2018 Saturday Tecate Peak; 11 moderate miles on jeep roads. Commanding views of the border region in this great workout of a hike 1900'/1900'. I have a border crossing card, if you have one or a passport we can dine in Mejico despues!

03/31/2018 Saturday Badland's exploration from June Wash; moderately difficult hike in spectacular formations; 10 to 12 cross country & use trail miles. A place to lose your mind... This is the Twilight Zone! ...the hike I look forward to most!

03/31/2018 Saturday Secret Canyon Trail - North; moderatet hike from Pine Valley, 15 trail miles. This is out & back on the North end of the trail, relatively level with some scruffy up and down in the middle.

04/08/2018 Sunday Black's Beach; My Favorite moderate hike, La Jolla Shores to Torrey Pines loop 'n back, 12 miles in 5 hrs.

04/14/2018 Saturday Exploration of Myer Valley/Boulder Creek in In-Ko-Pah; 10 cross country miles, 2000/2000; bagging a couple new peaklets, canyons, morteros and palm groves in boulder wonderland.

04/14/2018 Saturday Secret Canyon Loop- South; moderate hike from Horsethief Canyon trailhead, 15 trail miles. This is out on the trail & back on a closed private road. There were ticks & poison oak in Secret Canyon.

04/22/2018 Sunday Lovely Lagunas on Thing Valley Rd; 6 easy jeep road miles down then 6 back up the "backside" of the Laguna's loveliest pine & oak forest yet untouched by fire; with an optional 4 mile tough slog extension for diehards at the “bottom.”

04/28/2018 Saturday Agua Tibia to Dripping Springs & back; 3500’/3500’ in 12 miles.

05/05/2018 Saturday Three Short Flower Hikes in various Anza Borrego locations with cool car rides and very cool lunch at a Borrego Springs eatery in-between.

04/14/2018 Saturday NEW - Secret Canyon Trail Loop - BOTTOM; DIFFICULT LOOP from Horsethief Canyon trailhead, 17 trail & JEEP ROAD miles. This is an out & back Loop on the south end of the trail (OVERGROWN WITH TICKS & POISON OAK) & out on Horsethief Ridge (HAD TO GO THRU PROHIBITED PRIVATE PROPERTY).

04/21/2018 Saturday Agua Tibia to Dripping Springs & back; 3500’/3500’ in 12 miles.

04/28bad/2018 Saturday Corte Madera & the Espinoza Trail to a beautiful swimming hole at Pine Valley Canyon then back; 16 moderate miles - 2250'/2250'.

04/28bnew/2018 Saturday Espinoza Trail to a beautiful swimming hole at Pine Valley Canyon then back; 13 moderate miles - 2250'/2250'.

04/28bnew/2018 Saturday Corte Madera & Los Pinos Mtn;S 11 moderate miles - 3500'/3500'.

05/05/2018 Saturday Black's Beach; my favorite moderate hike, La Jolla Shores to Torrey Pines loop 'n back, 12 miles in 5 hrs.

05/12/2019 Saturday NEW - Lawson & Gaskill Peaks; 10 moderate miles - 2200'/2200' - in East County backcountry.

05/19/2018 Saturday Indian Creek Loop; 8 moderate miles – 1000’/1000’ - 5 lovely hours in the Lagunas; completely and absolutely pleasant.

05/27/2018 Sunday Lovely Lagunas on Thing Valley Rd; 6 easy jeep road miles down then 6 back up the "backside" of the Laguna's loveliest pine & oak forest yet untouched by fire; with an optional 4 mile tough slog extension for diehards at the “bottom.”

06/03/2018 Sunday Baldy 10064' - via the Ski Hut; 9 steep difficult starkly beautiful miles - 3900'/2400' - in 7 hours, then take the ski lift part way down.

06/09/2018 Saturday NEW - Cardiff to Carlsbad lunch & back Beach Walk; 11 miles - 12'/12' - of loveliness and a great workout.

06/17/2018 Sunday Baden Powell 9393'& Burnham; 14 moderately difficult trail miles - 5000'/5000' - from near Wrightwood in the San Gabriel’s.

06/23/2018 Saturday Tecolote Canyon & Starbuck's; 10 miles - 800'/800' - picturesque, riparian, seemingly remote; pretty easy except for a short steep hill thrown in now 'n then.

07/01/2018 Sunday Cucamonga Peak 8859'; 14 difficult miles - 4800'/4800' - up alder shaded Ice House Canyon to the peak and back in about 9 hours.

07/07/2018 Saturday Balboa Park Romp; Enjoy Balboa Park's best outdoor spots on a 3 to 4 hour workout, meeting at the fountain in-front of the Natural History Museum.

07/15/2018 Sunday San Gorgonio (or just Dollar Lake Saddle) via Momyer; 23 or 18 trail miles 4800'/4800'.

07/29/2018 Sunday The Three T's-Cucamonga Wilderness - above Pomona; 14 moderately difficult trail miles at altitude 5100/2700; Timber Mtn, Telegraph Pk and Thunder Mtn via Icehouse Cyn, in the prettiest, mostly shaded wilderness in about 10 hours.

08/11/2018 Saturday San Gorgonio via Vivian Creek; 19.6 difficult trail miles 4500'/4500' to So Cal's highest peak.

08/25/2018 Saturday Baldy from Wrightwood; strenuous and little used "Backbone Trail," 8 miles each way 4400'-1100'/1100'-4400'.

09/08/2018 Saturday San Jacinto via Deer Springs Loop; 17 strenuous miles 5200'/5200' in about 10 hrs.

09/22/2018 Saturday Baldy from Baldy Village; only 14 miles 5500'/5500', the shortest drive to one of the most difficultly exquisite climbs in So Cal. Be prepared to enjoy suffering all day... dinner afterwards is wonderful!

08/25/2018 Saturday San Gorgonio via Vivian Creek; 19.6 difficult trail miles 4500'/4500' to So Cal's highest peak.

09/08/2018 Saturday San Jacinto via Deer Springs Loop; 17 miles 5200'/5200' in about 10 hrs.

09/29/2018 Saturday Baldy Exploratory NEW HIKE; Up Ridge "USE TRAIL" from Manker Flat to trail mid-way between Baldy & Ski Lift - 7 steep difficult starkly beautiful miles - 2900'/1400' - in 7 hours, then take the ski lift part way down. This will be a part of a new route up ridge, over top, then down via ski hut.

10/07/2018 Sunday San Gorgonio: South Fork via Dollar & Dry Lakes; It's finally open again!!! Very Tough 26 miles on the easiest but longest trail. One of the most beautiful, adventurous & difficult hikes. Southern California's highest mountain - "Old Gray Back." We will leave from near Escondido at 4:00 am for a 2 1/2 hour drive each way and a 10 to 14 hour hike 6000' up & down hike that will make bones you never knew you had ache.

10/14/2018 Sunday Oakzanita Peak & Granite Springs; 11 moderate miles 2300/2300 in the best part of the Cyuamacas.

10/21/2018 Sunday NEW Baldy HIKE - via Ridge Use Trail; Up Ridge trail, to top, to Ski Hut, to Manker Flat - 12 steep difficult miles - 3900'/3900' - in 8 hours.

10/28/2018 Sunday Tecate Peak; 11 moderate miles on jeep roads. Commanding views of the border region in this great workout of a hike 1900/1900.

11/11/2018 Sunday Baden Powell 9393'; 12 moderately difficult trail miles 4000/4000 from near Wrightwood in the San Gabriel’s.

11/18/2018 Sunday Pinon Ridge - just East of Ranchita; easy 14 miles 1400/1400 on trails and old roads with a little cross country to get to the top of Wilson Peak 4573; see the "unknown" sides of Whale, Pinto Mountain & Borrego Springs.

10/29/2018 Monday NEW Baldy HIKE - via Ridge Use Trail; Up Ridge trail, to top, to Ski Hut, to Manker Flat - 12 steep difficult miles - 3900'/3900' - in 8 hours.

11/17/2018 Saturday Baden Powell 9393'; 12 moderately difficult trail miles 4000/4000 from near Wrightwood in the San Gabriel’s.

11/23/2018 Friday Dollar Lake Saddle via Momyer 12 trail miles 2200/2200, you can go to San Gorgonio if you like. 12/01/2018 SaturdayWonderhussey Trestle Hike - beautifully graffitied abandoned train cars; 12 miles and roaming abandoned stuff on this exciting and illegal hike (you could never do this in the Sierra Club) up the tracks to the Goat Canyon Trestle, the largest curved railway trestle.

06/15/2019 Saturday Ice House Canyon & 2 of the 3 T's About 12 miles & 4000'/4000'. Check out the pics of Chyong, Lino & Diane on Timber in the Link.

06/15/2019 Saturday Ice House Canyon & 2 of the 3 T's About 12 miles & 4000'/4000'. Check out the pics of Chyong, Lino & Diane on Timber in the Link.

08/13/2019 Tuesday Baden Powell 9393'; 12 moderately difficult trail miles 4000/4000 from near Wrightwood in the San Gabriel’s.

09/15/2019 Sunday San Gorgonio: South Fork hike with options; Do as much as you like, we’ll go up and back the same side via Dollar Lake Saddle; so slower hikers, like me, will meet the faster hikers, like Lino who may have gone to the top, and then go back down together ...just do 12 miles to Dollar Lake and out …or the whole thing, your choice.

12/22/2019 Sunday Agua Tibia; 13 miles.

12/29/2019 Sunday Elephant Knees; There are still a couple of seats left in Chyong’s 4WD for next Sundays trip HERE for 8 hours of otherworldly cross-country bliss on the “far side of the moon.”

01/12/2020 Sunday In-Ko-Pah to the Valley of the Moon; 13 difficult miles from Mountain Spring exit off the 8 up Pinto Canyon to the Valley of the Moon.
See Ryan's way cool VIDEO of this hike HERE!

02/16/2020 Sunday Whale Mountain - West approach loop; 15 moderate cross country, use & jeep trail miles in 10 hours 3400/3400.

03/01/2020 Sunday Villager - the classic desert up and back ramp; 5200/5200 in 13 miles, a moderate but long use trail from the start of the Santa Rosa Ridge.

05/10/2020 Sunday La Jolla Shores to Torrey Pines About 10 miles in 4 or 5 hours. One of my favorite hikes. I know, it's Mother's Day, my Mother has been dead for 30 years and I'm only a mother metaphorically.

07/19/2020 Sunday San Jacinto - Marion Mountain route Up and back so you can do part of it, all is 15 miles in 8 to 10 hours, the 2nd most beautiful hike.

07/26/2020 Sunday San Gorgonio South Fork Loop You can do all or part of it, all is 26 miles in 10 to 12 hours, the most beautiful hike. (USFS says it's 26 miles, Chyong says it's 20.)

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